1 00:00:07,550 --> 00:00:05,210 good afternoon and welcome to NASA's 2 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:07,560 Kennedy Space Center in Florida we're 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:10,110 just a few hours away from the expected 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:12,330 move of the Orion spacecraft to its 5 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:14,250 launch pad for the December flight test 6 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:16,049 and here to talk about the move I'm 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:18,630 pleased to be joined today by NASA 8 00:00:31,370 --> 00:00:25,400 Johnson Space Center Director Ellen 9 00:00:36,290 --> 00:00:31,380 Ochoa NASA Orion program manager Mark 10 00:00:40,010 --> 00:00:36,300 Guyer and Lockheed Martin Orion program 11 00:00:41,630 --> 00:00:40,020 manager Mike Hawes will begin with some 12 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:41,640 opening remarks and then we'll be happy 13 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:44,430 to take your questions mr. Cabana thanks 14 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:46,800 Mike well I'm sorry the weather didn't 15 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:48,510 cooperate and we're not sitting out at 16 00:00:53,389 --> 00:00:51,870 the LA SF with the Orion in the 17 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:53,399 background but let me tell you it really 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:54,809 looks great and hopefully the weather 19 00:00:59,869 --> 00:00:56,850 will cooperate and we'll roll over to 20 00:01:02,270 --> 00:00:59,879 the pad later this evening I got to tell 21 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:02,280 you this is this is special this is our 22 00:01:08,510 --> 00:01:05,100 first step on that journey to Mars in to 23 00:01:10,219 --> 00:01:08,520 see the vehicle on top of the service 24 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:10,229 module with the launch abort system 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:13,200 attached it's quite a stack and it's 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:14,610 going to look really good on top of that 27 00:01:20,660 --> 00:01:17,610 the Delta 4 is we go for that test 28 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:20,670 flight on December forth you know when 29 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:23,520 it rolled out of the or own see high bay 30 00:01:28,730 --> 00:01:27,180 in the neil armstrong building there you 31 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:28,740 know that was really special that was 32 00:01:33,289 --> 00:01:30,900 the first time that a crude vehicle has 33 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:33,299 rolled out that high base since Paulo 34 00:01:40,819 --> 00:01:37,200 Soyuz test project back in 1975 and to 35 00:01:42,859 --> 00:01:40,829 see history being made that was it was a 36 00:01:44,539 --> 00:01:42,869 special day and that was an awesome 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:44,549 partnership with the state of Florida 38 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:46,890 and Lockheed Martin to make that 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:49,920 facility a high bay of processing 40 00:01:54,770 --> 00:01:51,930 facility a manufacturing facility for 41 00:01:57,889 --> 00:01:54,780 the Orion spacecraft and after all that 42 00:02:00,350 --> 00:01:57,899 hard work you know now we're seeing the 43 00:02:02,690 --> 00:02:00,360 results of it and I can't be more 44 00:02:04,249 --> 00:02:02,700 excited about the transformation that 45 00:02:06,020 --> 00:02:04,259 we've made here at the Kennedy Space 46 00:02:08,839 --> 00:02:06,030 Center supporting the Space Launch 47 00:02:11,180 --> 00:02:08,849 System out of the pads over in the VA be 48 00:02:13,460 --> 00:02:11,190 the crawler transporter everything is 49 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:13,470 tracking along to that fy8 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:15,600 test flight with the big rocket on it 51 00:02:20,180 --> 00:02:17,730 and this is a huge first step to be able 52 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:20,190 to check out the vehicle on the Delta 4 53 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:22,710 and get some data back and let mark talk 54 00:02:28,340 --> 00:02:25,800 about that but you know between the 55 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:28,350 transformation launch pad 39a support 56 00:02:32,330 --> 00:02:30,930 the SLS the commercial operations that 57 00:02:34,460 --> 00:02:32,340 we have going on turning over the 58 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:34,470 facilities to enable commercial space 59 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:37,230 operations awarding the contract for 60 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:39,870 commercial crew and then the great 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:42,150 science missions that we have going on 62 00:02:46,850 --> 00:02:44,250 supported by LSP to procure those 63 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:46,860 expendable rockets I think our future 64 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:48,209 here at the Kennedy Space Center is 65 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:51,360 really being solidified and it's a real 66 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:53,550 pleasure to be here tonight to be able 67 00:02:58,190 --> 00:02:56,160 to see Orion roll for its first test 68 00:03:03,410 --> 00:02:58,200 flight so thank you all for coming out 69 00:03:05,630 --> 00:03:03,420 today Ryan represents the latest 70 00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:05,640 human-rated spacecraft that Johnson 71 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:07,380 Space Center has had the privilege of 72 00:03:11,690 --> 00:03:09,630 developing also including the 73 00:03:13,310 --> 00:03:11,700 International Space Station the Shuttle 74 00:03:15,470 --> 00:03:13,320 Orbiter and of course going back to 75 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:15,480 Apollo and we're the center that are 76 00:03:19,009 --> 00:03:17,040 eventually going to put our astronauts 77 00:03:20,540 --> 00:03:19,019 onboard so this initial test flight 78 00:03:23,210 --> 00:03:20,550 which focuses on some of the highest 79 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:23,220 risks to bringing the crew back safely 80 00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:25,530 from exploration missions is really 81 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:28,140 important to us we work closely with our 82 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:30,660 contractor partner Lockheed Martin not 83 00:03:34,790 --> 00:03:32,190 only through the program office at 84 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:34,800 Johnson that Mark Guyer leads but also 85 00:03:40,130 --> 00:03:37,260 in providing expertise and hardware and 86 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:40,140 software our engineering organization 87 00:03:44,750 --> 00:03:42,330 provided the entire parachute system for 88 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Orion and our engineers have also worked 89 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:46,530 alongside Lockheed engineers on 90 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:48,630 developing the guidance navigation and 91 00:03:53,420 --> 00:03:51,420 control systems and Lockheed is making 92 00:03:55,789 --> 00:03:53,430 use of our experience flight operations 93 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:55,799 team for this test flight so it's really 94 00:03:59,810 --> 00:03:57,930 a team effort and that's also true 95 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,820 across NASA you've already heard from 96 00:04:04,729 --> 00:04:01,680 Bob about some of the work that's gone 97 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:04,739 on here at Kennedy Space Center there 98 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:06,450 are several other NASA centers that are 99 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:08,160 either supporting the flight directly 100 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:10,650 such as the spacecraft adapter provided 101 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:13,200 by Marshall Space Flight Center or that 102 00:04:17,659 --> 00:04:15,450 support the Orion program in other ways 103 00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:17,669 as we move toward future test flights 104 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:20,580 and exploration missions so people 105 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:23,280 across NASA are involved in this first 106 00:04:27,170 --> 00:04:25,860 step toward pioneering space and we're 107 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:27,180 excited to have completed the 108 00:04:31,790 --> 00:04:29,490 test article for that mission to see it 109 00:04:33,620 --> 00:04:31,800 roll out to the pad later tonight and to 110 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:33,630 finish preparations for the December 111 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:38,160 fourth flight well let's see great a 112 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:39,990 great picture I wish it weren't quite so 113 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:42,870 wet but the main thing is we're looking 114 00:04:48,379 --> 00:04:45,210 forward to hopefully clear up by about 8 115 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:48,389 830 when we move out of there and it's a 116 00:04:52,370 --> 00:04:49,919 great you know just to have been in the 117 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:52,380 last if last Thursday it's very 118 00:04:56,749 --> 00:04:53,610 impressive to be right up next it's 119 00:04:58,850 --> 00:04:56,759 about 72 feet tall and it shows really 120 00:05:01,879 --> 00:04:58,860 the three key pieces of Orion the launch 121 00:05:03,710 --> 00:05:01,889 abort system on top with its aerodynamic 122 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:03,720 shape then the crew module which it 123 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:05,880 covers and then the service module below 124 00:05:10,460 --> 00:05:07,650 with the fairings now cover it too so 125 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:10,470 great great hardware a great example of 126 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:12,810 the hard work of about 3,000 people that 127 00:05:19,219 --> 00:05:16,470 support the Orion program I talked a 128 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:19,229 little bit last Thursday about Orion of 129 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:21,060 course I Ryan is the the exploration 130 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:23,280 spacecraft for NASA and paired with SLS 131 00:05:28,610 --> 00:05:26,130 we'll go explore the solar system this 132 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:28,620 particular test is unmanned eft-1 and 133 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:31,830 we're going to test really I would say 134 00:05:36,110 --> 00:05:33,570 the riskiest parts of the mission in 135 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:36,120 asset and entry things like the fairing 136 00:05:40,460 --> 00:05:39,090 separations heat shield parachutes entry 137 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:40,470 navigation and guidance those kind of 138 00:05:44,050 --> 00:05:42,449 things will test all those business 139 00:05:47,210 --> 00:05:44,060 flight as well as flying into deep space 140 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:47,220 and examining the radiation effects on 141 00:05:52,219 --> 00:05:50,010 the avionics so all those are happening 142 00:05:53,719 --> 00:05:52,229 is part of the flight and tonight is 143 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:53,729 just the next big milestone as we roll 144 00:06:00,080 --> 00:05:55,590 out and get stacked on the launch 145 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:00,090 vehicle tomorrow it's always tough to be 146 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:05,070 last so you know Mark alluded to to the 147 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:06,330 teams have been working on this for a 148 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:08,880 long time both NASA Lockheed and all of 149 00:06:13,999 --> 00:06:11,190 our teammates on the industry side this 150 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:14,009 is a really proud moment to be ready to 151 00:06:18,379 --> 00:06:16,560 actually roll the spacecraft out and to 152 00:06:22,189 --> 00:06:18,389 made it on top of the Delta for heavy 153 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:22,199 which is really a big moment for us we 154 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:25,740 talked a little bit about this team and 155 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:28,409 it is a different type of operation 156 00:06:33,230 --> 00:06:31,409 people get kind of clouded in this 157 00:06:36,290 --> 00:06:33,240 debate of old space new space 158 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:36,300 traditional entrepreneurial this team is 159 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:38,250 actually an interesting mix of many of 160 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:39,870 those things and you've heard it alluded 161 00:06:43,159 --> 00:06:40,050 to 162 00:06:44,869 --> 00:06:43,169 in a number of ways even though Lockheed 163 00:06:46,939 --> 00:06:44,879 was charged with the task of pulling 164 00:06:50,059 --> 00:06:46,949 together all the pieces for this test 165 00:06:51,890 --> 00:06:50,069 mission Bob's team is doing the recovery 166 00:06:53,869 --> 00:06:51,900 and all the interface with the Navy in 167 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:53,879 addition to their normal ground 168 00:07:00,050 --> 00:06:57,240 processing job ellen has talked about 169 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:00,060 all the work that JSC did in line with 170 00:07:06,770 --> 00:07:03,360 the development not just an oversight of 171 00:07:11,330 --> 00:07:06,780 the Lockheed and industry workforce and 172 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:11,340 then we have done not just all the 173 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:13,319 design and manufacturing of the 174 00:07:17,899 --> 00:07:16,590 spacecraft itself but Bob also mentioned 175 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:17,909 the fact that you know we made a 176 00:07:22,939 --> 00:07:19,949 commitment several years ago to turn the 177 00:07:24,589 --> 00:07:22,949 ONC into a factory and we have 178 00:07:27,379 --> 00:07:24,599 successfully done that to build the 179 00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:27,389 spacecraft and that was I think that was 180 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:31,590 a big leap that lots of us saw back in 181 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:34,289 that time and it has worked and we have 182 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:37,680 a ryan completed in front of us now so i 183 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:40,319 would add my hope to those that you've 184 00:07:45,019 --> 00:07:42,690 heard from already you know those of you 185 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:45,029 that have seen interstellar you know we 186 00:07:50,540 --> 00:07:47,130 have folks actually talking about moving 187 00:07:53,059 --> 00:07:50,550 humans off of our home planet and when 188 00:07:55,070 --> 00:07:53,069 we have those footprints on Mars I I 189 00:07:57,050 --> 00:07:55,080 certainly will believe and I hope many 190 00:08:00,969 --> 00:07:57,060 of you believe that this was that first 191 00:08:03,950 --> 00:08:00,979 step that got us started on that path 192 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:03,960 all right thank you we'll be happy to 193 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:05,759 take your questions now please wait for 194 00:08:09,170 --> 00:08:07,830 the microphone state your name and 195 00:08:10,850 --> 00:08:09,180 affiliation and to whom you're 196 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:10,860 addressing your question and we'll start 197 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:17,340 with Jason Jason Ryan for spaceflight 198 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,080 insider.com I guess this 199 00:08:23,149 --> 00:08:21,599 questions either from mark or Mike you 200 00:08:26,450 --> 00:08:23,159 mentioned the factory over the needle a 201 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:26,460 Armstrong O&C building when these test 202 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:27,930 flights start taking place you guys will 203 00:08:32,050 --> 00:08:29,250 be learning a lot of lessons about the 204 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:32,060 heat shield about the avionics on Orion 205 00:08:35,779 --> 00:08:34,110 how soon do you think we could see 206 00:08:37,459 --> 00:08:35,789 changes that are learned from those 207 00:08:39,709 --> 00:08:37,469 lessons when you conduct these missions 208 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:39,719 implement it into the next craft thank 209 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:42,060 you yes great yeah great question yeah 210 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:45,120 already so the for example the barrel on 211 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:47,370 em1 the very next flight the barrel 212 00:08:52,069 --> 00:08:50,070 which is the barrel section for the 213 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:52,079 pressurized element for em1 is in 214 00:08:56,170 --> 00:08:53,810 manufacturing in southern california 215 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:56,180 today and that barrel is twenty-five 216 00:09:00,640 --> 00:08:57,800 percent lighter than the one I'm going 217 00:09:03,070 --> 00:09:00,650 to fly on eft-1 so the flight itself 218 00:09:04,690 --> 00:09:03,080 into space is huge because we'll see how 219 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:04,700 the systems operate in the environment 220 00:09:09,070 --> 00:09:06,560 but actually building the first one is 221 00:09:11,050 --> 00:09:09,080 as big right how did it come together 222 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:11,060 when we got all the drawings and the 223 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:12,800 cables laid out how much did way what 224 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:14,480 did we find out about when we did the 225 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:16,970 loads testing where we had Marge and all 226 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:18,560 those kind of things are huge even 227 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:20,690 before you do the first flight so we've 228 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:22,070 already taken those lessons and rolled 229 00:09:26,110 --> 00:09:24,529 them into em1 already and then of course 230 00:09:27,790 --> 00:09:26,120 we get eft-1 will fly it and we'll learn 231 00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:27,800 some more things and we'll tweak some 232 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:29,420 other things on the design that's a 233 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:30,529 really good question because it's more 234 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:32,000 than just the flight itself and we 235 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:33,710 certainly learned a lot about the ONC as 236 00:09:37,780 --> 00:09:35,690 a factory you know where the types of 237 00:09:39,970 --> 00:09:37,790 things that were problematic first flow 238 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:39,980 through that we have an opportunity now 239 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:42,529 to correct and and do better on the next 240 00:09:50,829 --> 00:09:46,250 flows so it's really just getting here 241 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:50,839 has been a huge learning experience some 242 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:51,980 of the changes you had to make to the 243 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:54,020 ONC building to make it you know work 244 00:09:58,510 --> 00:09:56,210 with Orion it wasn't to the building per 245 00:10:00,190 --> 00:09:58,520 se but to the layouts that we had in the 246 00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:00,200 building and how we were working in 247 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:03,080 those work cells using this port a HEPA 248 00:10:07,770 --> 00:10:05,810 filter walls to keep down debris and 249 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:07,780 stuff we learned quite a bit about 250 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:09,530 particularly when we're doing welding 251 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:13,730 inside the facility so you know we will 252 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:15,230 certainly be looking at making changes 253 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:17,120 to that physical layout as we do the 254 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:20,810 next build neat about the way the ONC is 255 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:22,070 laid out it's none of that is a 256 00:10:27,430 --> 00:10:25,190 permanent fixture in the high bay all of 257 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:27,440 it is easily reconfigurable so they can 258 00:10:31,870 --> 00:10:29,839 get the best way the optimum way to 259 00:10:38,350 --> 00:10:31,880 actually do the manufacturing and 260 00:10:40,570 --> 00:10:38,360 processing of the vehicle Rob hi Robert 261 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:40,580 Pearlman with collectspace.com a 262 00:10:48,390 --> 00:10:45,530 question for for mark can you step us 263 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:48,400 through once Orion reaches the pad 264 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:51,170 through launch what what else has to be 265 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:53,690 done with Orion as you prepare it for 266 00:10:58,210 --> 00:10:55,790 for the temp the December 4th liftoff 267 00:11:00,670 --> 00:10:58,220 yeah so that there's a few things left 268 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:00,680 to go around by itself is done but we're 269 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:02,150 going to go stack it on the rocket and 270 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:03,920 so will test the kind of things you'd 271 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:05,570 want to do on the rocket so we'll test 272 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:06,889 the interfaces 273 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:09,230 that they talk to one another okay and 274 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:11,290 then we'll actually do a test where we 275 00:11:15,460 --> 00:11:13,279 communicate with the teacher satellites 276 00:11:17,019 --> 00:11:15,470 at the pad just to make sure that 277 00:11:19,150 --> 00:11:17,029 everything is still connected and 278 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:19,160 everything still works we'll do one more 279 00:11:22,269 --> 00:11:20,809 software upgrade so we'll run that 280 00:11:24,309 --> 00:11:22,279 software in the flight element as well 281 00:11:26,169 --> 00:11:24,319 and then we'll do a last pressure check 282 00:11:27,549 --> 00:11:26,179 after we put that the hatch on for the 283 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:27,559 final time we'll make sure it's holding 284 00:11:32,769 --> 00:11:29,600 pressure those kind of things those are 285 00:11:34,269 --> 00:11:32,779 the big tests we've got left to go all 286 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:34,279 those things we've done in the unc but 287 00:11:40,989 --> 00:11:35,600 we'll do it one more time when we're 288 00:11:43,629 --> 00:11:40,999 actually on the rocket for anyone who 289 00:11:46,989 --> 00:11:43,639 wants to take it just by coincidence 290 00:11:49,439 --> 00:11:46,999 fifty years ago this year another new 291 00:11:52,599 --> 00:11:49,449 capsule was rolling out to the same pad 292 00:11:55,150 --> 00:11:52,609 the first Apollo it was a ball it was a 293 00:11:57,069 --> 00:11:55,160 boiler plate but it still went out of 37 294 00:11:59,289 --> 00:11:57,079 be when we look back at that flight we 295 00:12:01,329 --> 00:11:59,299 see that as the the beginning of that 296 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:01,339 adventure to the moon if you can look 297 00:12:08,739 --> 00:12:04,790 ahead maybe the 50 years ahead how do 298 00:12:11,079 --> 00:12:08,749 you think will consider eft-1 will it be 299 00:12:15,579 --> 00:12:11,089 the same type of legacy or will it would 300 00:12:17,710 --> 00:12:15,589 be something bigger a little bit because 301 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:17,720 we've talked some what we've kind of 302 00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:20,689 drawn the analogy before where as people 303 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:22,790 were preparing for Apollo the Gemini 304 00:12:26,530 --> 00:12:24,169 missions were really important to 305 00:12:28,929 --> 00:12:26,540 understand how you do spacewalks and how 306 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:28,939 you do rendezvous between two vehicles 307 00:12:35,289 --> 00:12:33,110 and we see using Orion going forward in 308 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:35,299 the what we call the exploration mission 309 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:39,110 am one and two and beyond as sort of 310 00:12:43,379 --> 00:12:41,809 that same roll toward eventually getting 311 00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:43,389 to Mars where you're going to have to 312 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:46,040 demonstrate various different kinds of 313 00:12:51,489 --> 00:12:49,040 capabilities like doing deep space ebas 314 00:12:53,769 --> 00:12:51,499 or doing automated rendezvous and 315 00:12:56,259 --> 00:12:53,779 docking you know in the lunar vicinity 316 00:12:59,229 --> 00:12:56,269 and so this is this is the first step 317 00:13:01,119 --> 00:12:59,239 toward toward doing that and so that's 318 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:01,129 that's part of our excitement is we can 319 00:13:06,970 --> 00:13:03,350 see it building toward toward those 320 00:13:08,829 --> 00:13:06,980 kinds of missions and as Mark mentioned 321 00:13:10,359 --> 00:13:08,839 even though you know we talk a lot about 322 00:13:11,739 --> 00:13:10,369 the heat shield on this mission we're 323 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:11,749 actually exercising a lot of the 324 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:12,970 spacecraft on this mission 325 00:13:17,610 --> 00:13:14,769 you know the guidance software the 326 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:17,620 thrusters the whole all the separation 327 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:19,750 events the reentry systems the recovery 328 00:13:31,199 --> 00:13:23,620 system so it's actually a very large 329 00:13:32,699 --> 00:13:31,209 test of the system hi Eric burger with 330 00:13:34,769 --> 00:13:32,709 the Houston Chronicle and this question 331 00:13:38,850 --> 00:13:34,779 for Bob Eleanor mark whoever wants to 332 00:13:42,410 --> 00:13:38,860 attempt to take it I so we're almost 333 00:13:44,699 --> 00:13:42,420 five years now from februari of 2010 334 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:44,709 when the President's budget came out and 335 00:13:50,249 --> 00:13:47,529 cancelled the constellation program and 336 00:13:52,769 --> 00:13:50,259 I'm just wondering what it feels like to 337 00:13:56,689 --> 00:13:52,779 have sort of come from that low in terms 338 00:13:59,009 --> 00:13:56,699 of Orion and different pieces of 339 00:14:00,689 --> 00:13:59,019 consolation to sort of be here to 340 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:00,699 actually be launching hardware in space 341 00:14:07,259 --> 00:14:02,889 and does it make it sweeter or just kind 342 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:07,269 of what's your sense from a que se point 343 00:14:11,999 --> 00:14:09,550 of view the team is motivated they are 344 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:12,009 really enthused about everything that's 345 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:14,529 going on and this flights it's a big 346 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:17,889 deal it's good to be flying it's good to 347 00:14:25,019 --> 00:14:20,079 have a path forward but it you know it's 348 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:25,029 not just oh ryan in sls i mean it you 349 00:14:28,199 --> 00:14:26,230 got to tie it all together it's 350 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:28,209 Commercial Crew it's everything you know 351 00:14:32,369 --> 00:14:31,089 in 2017 we're going to have US 352 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:32,379 astronauts flying to the space station 353 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:35,889 on a u.s. rocket and that's huge to have 354 00:14:40,559 --> 00:14:38,740 a path forward from an exploration point 355 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:40,569 of view you know to be able to even 356 00:14:46,049 --> 00:14:42,910 think about the asteroid retrieval 357 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:46,059 mission in flying in vicinity of the 358 00:14:50,939 --> 00:14:47,290 moon in this lunar distant retrograde 359 00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:50,949 orbit on Orion to go visit an asteroid I 360 00:14:55,049 --> 00:14:53,319 mean that's pretty darn neat that's 361 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:55,059 exciting and we're doing some really 362 00:15:00,689 --> 00:14:57,730 cool stuff and I think the whole team is 363 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:00,699 on board with it they're enthused to to 364 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:02,410 help make it happen and I think there's 365 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:04,480 a genuine positive atmosphere and I 366 00:15:07,769 --> 00:15:06,160 don't think it's confined just to KSC I 367 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:07,779 mean you go across to all the NASA 368 00:15:11,129 --> 00:15:09,160 centers that are involved in this i 369 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:11,139 think the team is really looking forward 370 00:15:17,009 --> 00:15:14,220 to the future yeah i think there's a 371 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:17,019 these political questions are going to 372 00:15:20,910 --> 00:15:18,160 come up there going to come up about 373 00:15:22,889 --> 00:15:20,920 every change of President as people have 374 00:15:25,169 --> 00:15:22,899 are going to step back and ask what is 375 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:25,179 the policy what is our new plan I don't 376 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:26,800 expect that to change its been that 377 00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:28,420 way it was that way for Space Station 378 00:15:34,650 --> 00:15:31,839 it's happened to us I think the the key 379 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:34,660 lesson for us is to is to persevere 380 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:36,700 continue to show the value of the 381 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:39,339 program in any of these strategies that 382 00:15:43,259 --> 00:15:41,649 are discussed and I think that's the 383 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:43,269 that's the thing I get out of that is 384 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:45,970 that this Orien this orion design this 385 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:48,570 concept of a deep space exploration 386 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:51,310 vehicle has survived those discussions 387 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:53,529 which were difficult right and very much 388 00:15:56,759 --> 00:15:55,209 pressing what what is the mission we 389 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:56,769 have for this vehicle and it survived 390 00:16:00,960 --> 00:15:59,050 that and now we are here about to fly so 391 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:00,970 I think that says a lot about it's a 392 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:04,060 good design it's a good team it's a good 393 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:06,310 mission and now it's time to fly it so 394 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:08,019 it is very exciting it is a very 395 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,829 James Dean 396 00:16:22,819 --> 00:16:20,030 James day in florida today and i was 397 00:16:25,249 --> 00:16:22,829 just curious about some of the logistics 398 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:25,259 of the rollout and and your weather 399 00:16:29,090 --> 00:16:26,970 constraints are there any significant 400 00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:29,100 constraints to getting out hopefully 401 00:16:35,329 --> 00:16:33,240 close to on time and and pretty long 402 00:16:37,340 --> 00:16:35,339 maybe a little bit circuitous route oh 403 00:16:40,189 --> 00:16:37,350 just curious with the reason for that 404 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,199 and but given that you're going by pat 405 00:16:43,699 --> 00:16:42,240 be i guess is in appearance is this 406 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:43,709 exactly how it will look when you're 407 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:49,470 rolling out to an sls i'll take a couple 408 00:16:52,999 --> 00:16:50,790 of it first off the reason we're going 409 00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:53,009 by pad be and not more directly by paddy 410 00:16:56,269 --> 00:16:54,540 as we got an issue with the road out 411 00:16:58,340 --> 00:16:56,279 there and it wouldn't support the 412 00:17:02,059 --> 00:16:58,350 vehicle and we're doing some repairs on 413 00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:02,069 the bypass road around pad a so that 414 00:17:05,630 --> 00:17:03,750 would have been a more direct route so 415 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:05,640 we have to go around and use the road by 416 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:09,120 pad be in order to get out to 37 so that 417 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:11,250 that's one of the reasons we're going by 418 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:13,110 pad be well it look exactly like this 419 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:15,240 when it rolls out no James we're going 420 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:16,980 to be on top of the SLS on a little 421 00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:19,280 launcher and it's going to be awesome 422 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:21,630 but as far as what gets stacked on top 423 00:17:28,010 --> 00:17:24,630 of the SLS yeah this is when it goes by 424 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:28,020 pad pad be this is what is going to be 425 00:17:31,399 --> 00:17:29,760 on top of the SLS this is what it will 426 00:17:32,690 --> 00:17:31,409 look like and so that's pretty cool so 427 00:17:34,399 --> 00:17:32,700 hope maybe we'll get a few pictures of 428 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:34,409 it you know weather permitting and 429 00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:36,090 lighting and everything else is that the 430 00:17:41,899 --> 00:17:40,169 rolls past its future launch site on its 431 00:17:46,460 --> 00:17:41,909 next mission so that's going to be 432 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:46,470 pretty cool but you know it's a as far 433 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:48,210 as whether we talked about that right 434 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:50,700 before we came out here too we're going 435 00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:54,030 to get a further weather forecast here 436 00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:55,830 in about 40 minutes and then we'll know 437 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:57,510 whether we are within the constraints or 438 00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:01,280 not but it's primarily you can't have 439 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,559 wind gusts over 25 knots we're going to 440 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:06,720 you know twenty not win restraint and 441 00:18:11,149 --> 00:18:08,370 you can't have it be in a phase one 442 00:18:12,169 --> 00:18:11,159 lightning hold both were the vehicle and 443 00:18:15,860 --> 00:18:12,179 the people that are going to be going 444 00:18:17,899 --> 00:18:15,870 with it so you know I think we're 445 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:17,909 looking at maybe not rolling out quite 446 00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:19,650 on time but we'll have to see we'll see 447 00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:21,120 what the weather forecast is and 448 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:22,740 hopefully we'll get out there it's about 449 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:25,130 a you what do we got about a six-hour 450 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:27,110 roll to the pad 451 00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,450 yep so we got we got some time to get 452 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:31,520 there tonight initial reports were that 453 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:33,770 it may take a couple hours for the 454 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:35,390 system to move through and we'll we'll 455 00:18:40,419 --> 00:18:37,910 see that the teams meeting here like Bob 456 00:18:42,130 --> 00:18:40,429 said in half an hour 40 minutes or so to 457 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:42,140 make that determination of what the 458 00:18:49,810 --> 00:18:47,450 timing will be Amy Greene of WM Fe 459 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:49,820 public radio we know that the ultimate 460 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:52,250 mission of this spacecraft is to go to 461 00:18:57,340 --> 00:18:54,830 Mars what is the timeframe what is the 462 00:18:59,860 --> 00:18:57,350 time frame at this point for the first 463 00:19:02,200 --> 00:18:59,870 manned mission with this spacecraft and 464 00:19:04,510 --> 00:19:02,210 what would be the nature of that first 465 00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:04,520 manned mission first manned mission 466 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:08,000 would be 20 21 before that so we'll fly 467 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:10,010 eft-1 then we have the next flight is 468 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:11,600 called e-m1 which would be another 469 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:14,809 unmanned flight that flight would be on 470 00:19:19,169 --> 00:19:16,610 a full service module and on the big 471 00:19:23,789 --> 00:19:19,179 rocket on sls so that's that's about 472 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:23,799 2017 2018 2021 will be the man launch 473 00:19:27,789 --> 00:19:25,850 right now we're looking at the specific 474 00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:27,799 objectives of that it depends on how 475 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:31,220 e-m1 goes e-m1 today we're going to send 476 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:33,950 around the moon and do some complex 477 00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:35,809 orbital maneuvers to kind of test out 478 00:19:41,289 --> 00:19:38,750 those plans if that goes well we could 479 00:19:43,299 --> 00:19:41,299 either send leave em2 around the earth 480 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:43,309 or we could send it out past the moon so 481 00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,010 it really be the fundamental test for m2 482 00:19:50,020 --> 00:19:48,320 is to put people in the vehicle and make 483 00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:50,030 sure all the life support and all the 484 00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:51,440 things that interact with the crew are 485 00:19:55,930 --> 00:19:53,630 working correctly and then push the 486 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:55,940 other systems as as much as we can 487 00:19:59,860 --> 00:19:57,890 debate depending on how em1 went and 488 00:20:02,200 --> 00:19:59,870 then after that we're looking at this 489 00:20:05,260 --> 00:20:02,210 asteroid retrieval mission when the next 490 00:20:07,419 --> 00:20:05,270 flight is for that once we do e m2 491 00:20:10,060 --> 00:20:07,429 fundamentally we've already got the 492 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:10,070 fundamental systems for us to on the on 493 00:20:15,070 --> 00:20:11,690 the man's side to do the mission we've 494 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:15,080 got the airlock with the cabin of Orion 495 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:17,600 we've got suits we've got guides 496 00:20:22,510 --> 00:20:19,250 navigation we've got all those kind of 497 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:22,520 things so that that after am too in that 498 00:20:30,220 --> 00:20:24,140 range a flight or two is when we'll do 499 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:30,230 the asteroid visit mission okay if 500 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:31,700 you're on the phone bridge and you have 501 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:33,260 a question please make sure to unmute 502 00:20:37,450 --> 00:20:35,120 yourself and we'll take a question here 503 00:20:39,310 --> 00:20:37,460 from Jason Jason Oien spaceflight 504 00:20:40,570 --> 00:20:39,320 insiders kind of follow-up to the last 505 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,580 question 506 00:20:44,019 --> 00:20:42,080 I if memory serves as capable of 507 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:44,029 supporting a crew of 4 to 6 for 21 days 508 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:46,789 and it's been positive dat a spacecraft 509 00:20:53,259 --> 00:20:49,610 for a Mars mission would be equal to or 510 00:20:56,289 --> 00:20:53,269 larger than the space station so my 511 00:20:58,090 --> 00:20:56,299 question is where is nasan its 512 00:20:59,200 --> 00:20:58,100 development of the spacecraft and is it 513 00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:59,210 possible we're looking at another 514 00:21:07,509 --> 00:21:01,760 international collaborative effort on 515 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:07,519 the road to Mars I guess there's a 516 00:21:11,950 --> 00:21:08,809 number of things you can say their first 517 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:11,960 of all Ryan already is an international 518 00:21:17,889 --> 00:21:15,350 effort because on m1e so we'll be 519 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:17,899 providing the service modules so you 520 00:21:21,789 --> 00:21:20,000 know the program has already taken that 521 00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:21,799 first step to bring in international 522 00:21:25,779 --> 00:21:23,659 partners and yes we absolutely that 523 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:25,789 would that would continue not only with 524 00:21:30,909 --> 00:21:27,110 ISA but we hope with other international 525 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:30,919 partners as well and on the on the way 526 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:33,320 to Mars what we would assume is that we 527 00:21:36,850 --> 00:21:34,850 have some sort of habitation module 528 00:21:40,419 --> 00:21:36,860 which will be the module that would keep 529 00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:40,429 crew alive for the long transit back and 530 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:42,590 the Orion is really what gets you into 531 00:21:47,470 --> 00:21:44,570 space and really importantly get you 532 00:21:48,909 --> 00:21:47,480 back at the end of the mission from the 533 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:48,919 high speeds that you would be coming 534 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:51,470 back one of the reasons the asteroid 535 00:21:57,789 --> 00:21:55,250 retrieval mission is a good step toward 536 00:22:01,090 --> 00:21:57,799 that is because we can carry out that 537 00:22:02,740 --> 00:22:01,100 mission with Orion and with SLS in their 538 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:02,750 initial configuration without developing 539 00:22:07,899 --> 00:22:06,289 a hab module or any other major module 540 00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:07,909 we can't we can do it with their initial 541 00:22:13,419 --> 00:22:12,260 configurations okay let's go to the 542 00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:13,429 phone bridge and take a question from 543 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:16,190 mike wall space calm and then we'll come 544 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:20,690 back here to Kennedy Mike okay thanks 545 00:22:25,930 --> 00:22:23,929 guys oh yeah this was just for for the 546 00:22:28,810 --> 00:22:25,940 entire panel I suppose Weber wants to 547 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:28,820 actually take it um this it's been 42 548 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:31,970 years since people have been in deep 549 00:22:37,419 --> 00:22:34,730 space and so I guess yeah what were the 550 00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:37,429 major challenges toward developing a 551 00:22:41,470 --> 00:22:39,620 brand new spacecraft that can take 552 00:22:43,629 --> 00:22:41,480 people to deep space and you know what 553 00:22:46,299 --> 00:22:43,639 are some of the major things you guys 554 00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:46,309 are actually looking to find out during 555 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:48,380 this first this first test flight I know 556 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,940 you guys talked about all the systems 557 00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:50,960 that are going to be checking but but 558 00:22:54,130 --> 00:22:52,549 either one or two in particular things 559 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:54,140 that you're really curious to see 560 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,280 on this first flight and yet and 561 00:23:01,360 --> 00:22:59,360 thinking just briefly talk about how 562 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:01,370 that relates to actually building the 563 00:23:09,670 --> 00:23:03,740 first deep-space spaceship for people 564 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:09,680 about for that cage yeah there's a lot 565 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:11,510 of things excellent question there's a 566 00:23:15,910 --> 00:23:13,970 lot of things about a vehicle that goes 567 00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:15,920 to deep space that are different than a 568 00:23:20,110 --> 00:23:18,710 vehicle that that orbits at low low 569 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:20,120 altitudes like at Space Station 570 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:23,170 altitudes some of the big things are 571 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:27,290 consumables you know you go 21 days you 572 00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:30,320 got to take a lot of oxygen water food 573 00:23:33,790 --> 00:23:32,390 those kind of things co2 removal those 574 00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:33,800 kind of things so that drives that can 575 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:37,000 drive the size it also drove for us a 576 00:23:41,890 --> 00:23:39,710 technology for removing co2 that did not 577 00:23:43,150 --> 00:23:41,900 require these liyo cans remember the 578 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:43,160 shuttle used to take bunch of those and 579 00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:44,360 when you're when you're out for 21 days 580 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:46,760 that's a big mass it so we developed a 581 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:49,520 new technology to do that another thing 582 00:23:52,150 --> 00:23:50,930 about a deep space vehicle is you're a 583 00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:52,160 long way from home as something happens 584 00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,220 if you're if you're in low-earth orbit 585 00:23:58,510 --> 00:23:56,960 you can get to the ground about 45 586 00:24:00,220 --> 00:23:58,520 minutes if you're out past the moon your 587 00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:00,230 five to twelve days away from home 588 00:24:03,820 --> 00:24:02,000 depending on the the mission we're 589 00:24:06,250 --> 00:24:03,830 looking at that's a long way so you've 590 00:24:08,050 --> 00:24:06,260 got to have highly reliable systems and 591 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:08,060 you've got to have capabilities to 592 00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:09,440 protect the crew in case of a 593 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:11,870 contingency so one of the examples that 594 00:24:20,410 --> 00:24:14,770 we talk about is we can support the crew 595 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:20,420 in their suits for up to six days so if 596 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:22,910 we have a totally depressed cabin they 597 00:24:26,380 --> 00:24:24,140 can be in their suits and we can get 598 00:24:28,330 --> 00:24:26,390 them home that's an example of a 599 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:28,340 deep-space spacecraft and the kind of 600 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:30,710 complexity you have to add to make that 601 00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:32,330 work Ellen also mentioned the speeds 602 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:34,550 coming back from the moon or higher so 603 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:36,170 the heat shield has to be different 604 00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:38,330 different materials different different 605 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:40,100 thicknesses other things you have to 606 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:41,450 consider and actually the physics of 607 00:24:45,850 --> 00:24:43,130 entry changes when you come back at 608 00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:45,860 those higher speeds so those are all the 609 00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:46,790 kind of things you have to think about 610 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:48,500 on this particular flight on also 611 00:24:52,270 --> 00:24:50,090 radiation radiation once you get past 612 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:52,280 low-earth orbit is significantly higher 613 00:24:56,830 --> 00:24:55,010 and so for the crew with the missions of 614 00:24:59,290 --> 00:24:56,840 21 days it's not a big driver for the 615 00:25:01,780 --> 00:24:59,300 crew but it can affect your computer's 616 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:01,790 you know our computers now the circuits 617 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:03,530 are so small they're actually affected 618 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:05,090 much more by radiation and so you have 619 00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:06,530 to be able to handle things we call like 620 00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:07,670 upsets where the compete 621 00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:09,350 decides to glitch and you have to reset 622 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:11,720 it you have to handle in your redundancy 623 00:25:16,150 --> 00:25:14,270 and backup systems available to restart 624 00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:16,160 and not lose your state state of the 625 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,660 vehicle the nav state those kind of 626 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,520 things so all those have to be accounted 627 00:25:23,770 --> 00:25:21,440 for in your design on this particular 628 00:25:25,450 --> 00:25:23,780 flight we're going to test things like 629 00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:25,460 the heat shield that's the big one of 630 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:26,780 the big things about the test so that's 631 00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:28,190 why we're going using the Delta for 632 00:25:32,350 --> 00:25:30,680 heavy gets us you know 15 times higher 633 00:25:34,090 --> 00:25:32,360 than Space Station's about eighty four 634 00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:34,100 percent of a lunar entry velocity so we 635 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:36,140 start seeing that different physics we 636 00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:37,330 start seeing those very high 637 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:39,830 temperatures high velocity so that's one 638 00:25:43,030 --> 00:25:41,810 of the big things will test and as we go 639 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:43,040 through the Van Allen belts we're going 640 00:25:47,230 --> 00:25:45,110 to see this radiation effect on the 641 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:47,240 computer so we're going to we're both 642 00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:48,530 going to measure what those similars 643 00:25:51,130 --> 00:25:49,760 we're going to measure the environment 644 00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:51,140 we're also going to see how the avionics 645 00:25:56,530 --> 00:25:52,580 behave which is actually more important 646 00:25:58,420 --> 00:25:56,540 and how does how do our mitigations work 647 00:25:59,770 --> 00:25:58,430 how did it work with the resets that we 648 00:26:02,350 --> 00:25:59,780 put in the point so those are the kind 649 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:02,360 of things I would say all the things 650 00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:04,490 that are normally tricky about entry 651 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:08,420 like the parachutes deploying we have a 652 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:10,010 lot of parachutes because you need to 653 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:11,450 slow the vehicle down from about 300 654 00:26:16,570 --> 00:26:13,730 miles an hour to 20 miles an hour and so 655 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:16,580 we do that in stages parachutes or one 656 00:26:21,550 --> 00:26:19,490 the only system that actually assembles 657 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:21,560 itself in operation you know they come 658 00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:23,450 out and they have the invitation you 659 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:24,620 know the parachutes interact with one 660 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:25,730 another you might see they almost like 661 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:27,170 they're breathing so you need to know 662 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:28,430 how that work because that affects the 663 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,050 loads on the crew affects the loads on 664 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:32,240 the spacecraft we've done a lot of drop 665 00:26:36,130 --> 00:26:34,400 tests out in Yuma and looked at failure 666 00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:36,140 cases but until you actually drop it in 667 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:38,750 the exact air density and speeds that 668 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:40,310 you're going to see you're certainly 669 00:26:43,570 --> 00:26:41,810 going to learn some stuff from that so 670 00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,580 I'd say those are the biggies and I 671 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,960 would say just from technology 672 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:47,120 standpoint you know people make a lot of 673 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:49,970 comparisons to Orion or to Apollo 674 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:51,950 because it looks somewhere and and in 675 00:26:56,350 --> 00:26:53,930 fact the shape is the best shape for 676 00:26:58,690 --> 00:26:56,360 coming in from that high speed type 677 00:27:02,350 --> 00:26:58,700 reentry and the afco material which we 678 00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:02,360 use a nun heat shield is similar to the 679 00:27:05,890 --> 00:27:04,190 apco use for apollo although we have had 680 00:27:08,350 --> 00:27:05,900 to make some changes due to materials 681 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:08,360 changes but the technology of just about 682 00:27:13,630 --> 00:27:10,850 everything else that we use to put in 683 00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:13,640 Orion and to build Orion have changed 684 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:15,279 dramatically in that time 685 00:27:20,649 --> 00:27:18,200 you think of 50 years of manufacturing 686 00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:20,659 changes and it's it's a totally 687 00:27:24,669 --> 00:27:22,760 different world and in fact we do have 688 00:27:28,539 --> 00:27:24,679 additive manufactured parts on a ride 689 00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:28,549 today okay we're back here at Kennedy 690 00:27:32,350 --> 00:27:30,950 and time for one last question Jared 691 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:32,360 haworth with Space Flight insider 692 00:27:36,879 --> 00:27:35,090 question for Bob Orion's leaving your 693 00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,889 property for the first time in over two 694 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:38,480 years today can you tell us a little bit 695 00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:40,370 more about what Kennedy's role is going 696 00:27:43,149 --> 00:27:41,960 to be once it's out there at the 697 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:43,159 Canaveral side what's going to happen 698 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,570 here with facilities and people to 699 00:27:50,139 --> 00:27:47,200 support the mission sure well this is a 700 00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:50,149 Lockheed Martin test flight the program 701 00:27:54,909 --> 00:27:52,460 is getting all the data from Lockheed 702 00:27:56,649 --> 00:27:54,919 Martin we will do flight following our 703 00:27:59,950 --> 00:27:56,659 launch services program will have folks 704 00:28:02,740 --> 00:27:59,960 over in hangar AE watching the the data 705 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:02,750 just as any expendable launch vehicle 706 00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:05,210 that we launch we're in an advisory role 707 00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:08,480 we're not actually responsible will have 708 00:28:14,889 --> 00:28:12,100 folks in the LCC also following the data 709 00:28:16,629 --> 00:28:14,899 ellen's folks and Mission Control and 710 00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:16,639 Houston are going to be following it and 711 00:28:21,639 --> 00:28:19,580 then the next really big role that we 712 00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:21,649 play is going to be the recovery of the 713 00:28:26,289 --> 00:28:24,320 vehicle off of Baja when it lands off 714 00:28:28,419 --> 00:28:26,299 the coast of California and then working 715 00:28:29,649 --> 00:28:28,429 with the Navy to bring it back here and 716 00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,659 we're looking forward to getting it back 717 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:31,279 so we can process it for that aboard 718 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:34,370 flight there's a lot of work to be done 719 00:28:38,409 --> 00:28:35,809 you know Bob's team is doing the 720 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:38,419 transport cross-country from the port to 721 00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:40,970 get it back here you know we hope to be 722 00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:46,340 back in the ONC Christmas weakish but 723 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,990 there's there's a lot of work to be done 724 00:28:52,269 --> 00:28:50,000 because really gather not just the data 725 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,279 but really starting to pull the back 726 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:53,840 shells off look at the systems 727 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:56,450 understand how they really weathered the 728 00:29:02,500 --> 00:28:58,250 flight there's a huge amount of work to 729 00:29:04,570 --> 00:29:02,510 be done with that all right thank you 730 00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:04,580 all very much for coming we look forward 731 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:06,350 to tonight's move you can keep track of 732 00:29:14,110 --> 00:29:08,570 the status of the move on the NASA 733 00:29:16,810 --> 00:29:14,120 website at WWDC gov / Orion and on